(03-03-2010 04:46 AM)Ahsoka Tano Wrote: Your totally fucking overreacting... Even though 13 is the most they've ever had, its still not even that much, compared to the 100 some new pokemon adde each game that still leaves you at least 80 fucking new pokemon, not to mention the already mentioned fact you don't even need to use Legendary's or bother about them if it ruins the game for you that much. As for me I love the newer legendaries the most besides lugia. Groundon, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia, Giritina, and Darkrai are much better than three fucking birds with no story whatsoever.
EDIT: WELP my bad this was to Tom...guess I was much to late.
I could really care less, because regardless of what anyone thinks, there's a bunch of Japanese people in a room right now doing something that someone is gonna hate and others are gonna love.
However, you've challenged my ranting ability, and I have only one question for you now, my friend, in my best Keith David voice...
ARE YOU REAAAAAAADYYY!?
Let me simplify what I'm about to say: I think that lots of the Gen 4 legendaries are pointless or superfluous.
Now the long version. Allow me to organize all the Gen 4 legendaries and explain why I think they are good, why I think they are bad, and what could have been done to make certain Legendaries less of a grate on my nerves... Also, let me also say that with things how they are, Gen 4 could have been a good ending Generation, mostly because with so many Legendaries, they wanted to push out several other ideas at once, but in reality I doubt that... Anyway, onto the list:
Lake Trio: A necessary staple since Gen 1. Every Generation had a trio, each different from the last. Did all three of these have to be Psychics? No, probably not.
Dialga/Palkia: The staple Yin and Yang, bread and butter Legendaries since Gen 2. Ever since Gen 2, there were competing "poster child" Legendaries, so these guys are pretty much expected.
Giratina: Something that began in Gen 3 (which I never played, I just have knowledge of) was the inclusion of a THIRD Legendary to form a trifecta with the two poster Pokemon legendaries. This, while not AS necessary, isn't SO bad. One odd thing is the inclusion of a second form... Personally, I feel like they just couldn't settle on one design for Giratina, so they gave it two. (That origin form is pretty bitchin' if you ask me).
Darkrai and Cresselia: These two are a bit weird... they are kind of cool, but in reality, they just feel like the Yin and Yang concept with two pokemon who weren't cool enough in design to be poster-children. It's not so bad, they can kind of be paralleled to Deoxys' spot, but they aren't nearly as cool as a genetic alien that has four forms. I guess they kind of replace Lati@s as a secret duo, but one is very accessible while the other is morbidly secret (aka: Event Pokemon).
EVERYTHING BEYOND THIS POINT ARE QUESTIONABLE AND/OR SUPERFLUOUS.
Regigigas: While a fairly cool concept, he seems extra. Why wasn't he in Gen 3, where the Regi's originated? More importantly, why did he need to be in Gen 4 when there were so many Legendaries already? Oh well, I guess it's not THAT bad, Gen 4 is bound to have more Legendaries than 3, right?
Heatran: This is certainly a questionable decision. Why did there need to be a random, relatively ineffective Legendary like this? Why couldn't they just have kept it as some sort of powerful, final evolution of a regular Pokemon and just have a storyline around it because it's a cool guy? Wait, it's not THAT cool... Kinda cool, not very. (Also, I know if it was a regular Pokemon, its stats tweaked to be not as powerful, but honestly I don't even know how powerful it is.)
Phione/Manaphy: THIS is where things get REALLY questionable. Not even because of the breeding, because in all honesty, I thought that was an interesting idea for a Legendary, granted its originality is tapped out after it is introduced, but for a one-time thing, I think it's alright in my book. However, that brings us to two problems: Manaphy competes with Shaymin for the spot of the "obligitory-secret-Mew-like" Pokemon. Not only that, it creates ANOTHER Pokemon of the same manner. Maybe if Manaphy was some sort of event Pokemon or transfer from a spin-off that wasn't really considered a legendary, it wouldn't be that much of a headache. What makes matters worse is their design. Truth be told, before I was versed better in Gen 4, I thought that Manaphy was in the same family as the Lake Trio. Sure, if you put them side by side it's not that confusing, but I never saw them side by side when I had that confusion. Still doesn't change the fact that their design is kind of shitty.
Shaymin: In all honesty, I think this could be the obligitory-Mew-like Pokemon.. however, things get slightly more complicated when they randomly add another form in an attempt to make what was once a rather cute hedgehog-inspired creature into a edgier Sonic-inspired creature who only looks like its previous form because of color similarities. Really, I can deal with Pokemon with multiple forms. But did we need more than one Legendary in one Gen that was like that? It's hardly original or interesting now.
Arceus: In my opinion, a wasted opportunity. They could have held out for one more Gen and then dropped this on us like a freakin' bomb, made it the focus of a whole Generation. Instead, they crowded it into an already packed list of legendaries, so many of them Event Pokemon, and made its very existence bizarre and cryptic to anyone without a Gameshark or devout interest in Pokemon. "Oh! There are these two Pokemon that are like Yin and Yang! Oh wait, there's someone ONE Pokemon that equals the exact Opposite of Yin and Yang... we'll call it, GnayniY! OH WAIT! They are actually separated manifestations of THIS dude, and somehow all four can exist in one plane of existence together. It's God after all!"
Well, that's all I've got to say on the subject, so I think I'll retire from it from now on. But don't let that stop you from posting your opinion, because I shouldn't be (and haven't been) the only one posting their mind.