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RE: Fox
Regular PNGs are lossless, they do not alter data when being saved. If this is the case when uploading, then the image hosting site just plain suck dragon balls. PNGs never ever darken by themselves. That's bullshit, and I should know it. I've been doing a lot of research on file formats, as well as it being part of my studies.
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12-08-2009 03:38 PM
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(12-08-2009 03:38 PM)GaryCXJk Wrote:  Regular PNGs are lossless, they do not alter data when being saved. If this is the case when uploading, then the image hosting site just plain suck dragon balls. PNGs never ever darken by themselves. That's bullshit, and I should know it. I've been doing a lot of research on file formats, as well as it being part of my studies.

Could the program the PNG is opened in have some sort of effect on it? I know from personal experience with MS Paint that if you copied a part of a PNG image and tried to paste it into another, there could be some change in the color data. Not as drastic as between other files, but I have an example...

[Image: bmptest.png]

I did this when I was trying to figure out in what situations where MS Paint would change the color data. The correct ones were copied and pasted into a 24-bit BMP file and then saved as a PNG. The bottom row, which is not the correct palettes, resulted from pasting the last three images onto a PNG file containing the Purple guy. Notice that the differences are very subtle, but the colors are altered on all three of the ones pasted after the purple guy. However, if I was to copy and paste more images of the purple guy over and over, his color would not change, supposedly because it would have the same palette.

So if you are using MS Paint, color data can be warped in weird ways. However, simply saving a file over and over as a PNG shouldn't change it, as far as I know.
12-08-2009 07:55 PM
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RE: Fox
So would saving a file with a complete intended palette the first time fix any future palette problems, as long as no further palettes were used?

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(12-08-2009 08:04 PM)Jdaster64 Wrote:  So would saving a file with a complete intended palette the first time fix any future palette problems, as long as no further palettes were used?

As far as I can tell, working with MS Paint and PNGs anyway, I think it would be okay. I tested it out by getting different images of the correct palettes and pasting them onto the same PNG image as the first, and they turned out okay. Pasting one that was different, though, did not work right.
12-08-2009 08:11 PM
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I quit reading after "MS Paint". MS Paint rarely outputs true PNG files. In fact, Microsoft until Internet Explorer was even too stubborn to implement the PNG format.

You'd be better off with Paint.NET, a free alternative to MS Paint.
12-08-2009 08:46 PM
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Hey! Pay attention! I've said this many times before and it always works!

Save the file as a BMP and upload it to Imageshack. Imageshack will automatically convert it to PNG without altering the colors. Do this as many times as you like!

12-08-2009 08:57 PM
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Tiff is smaller in file space by quite a bit. Although it may not look like it at first, as the file gets bigger there is a dramatic increase in the space taken up.
12-08-2009 10:45 PM
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.........nice to know.........
Back on topic now????

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12-08-2009 11:35 PM
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RE: Fox
i did a little edit, i redid the body and edited the head to make it a pixel thinner, sorry i didn't ask for permission, i thikn the body on the 1st looks a but too thick, my body isn't very good but i just did it as an idea.

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12-09-2009 06:40 AM
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Yours has bad shading and the arms are way too short.

12-09-2009 06:42 AM
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RE: Fox
okay, i will work on that, i am an inexperienced spriter, but do yuo think it looks better or worse with the head thinner?
12-11-2009 07:08 AM
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No offense, but if you're inexperienced, this probably isn't the project for you. The current Fox looks fine right now anyway.

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[Image: foxears.png]
Had fox here for a size comparison with Lucario and noticed that his ears were atrocious.

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Am I the only one that thinks he looks like hes leaning backwards?
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Yes.

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