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Ankoopa
Category
3DS
Game
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions
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Non-Playable Characters
Submitter
Ploaj
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Ankoopa
Jun 22, 2024, 7:37 PM
Hello everybody! I’ve gone ahead and requested one last revision to this sheet asking for it to be renamed back to Ankoopa. As noted by the folks over at Super Mario Wiki, Ankoopa is not actually a fan name, but rather the official title used in-game. This name is probably a better fit than the generic “Turtle” used in the Prima Guide. Especially since this guide in particular had a bad habit of referring to clearly named entities via generic capitalized titles (IE, the “S.S. Chuckola” being named “Pirate Ship”.) Additionally, Ankoopa does actually have a unique name in multiple languages, including Japanese (Nokottasu), which seemingly confirms that they are their own entity, separate from a normal Koopa Troopa. Thanks, and I hope that this helps clear things up! :D
Mr Yporolsa
Apr 28, 2020, 4:48 AM
literally unplayable
KaraszKun
Apr 30, 2018, 10:56 AM
So it's just Big Koopa Troopa now. He may be big, but he lost a few pounds.
Petie
Oct 15, 2017, 3:36 PM
Also, maybe instead of just complaining about the name being wrong, give us the right name too? Like Ploaj said, you can also submit a revision yourself to request that the name be updated.
Edit:
Actually, I just saw that you submitted a revision. I'll take a look at it now.
Ploaj
Oct 15, 2017, 1:22 PM
Anyone can submit a revision
I just named the sheet the same as the one in the GBA section; I didn't know it was a fan-name
Doc von Schmeltwick
Oct 14, 2017, 7:02 PM
....can someone at least rename the sheet from the nonsensical fan name?
MotorRoach
Oct 14, 2017, 2:01 PM
Just when I thought the game couldn't feel any more generic.
Nitwitsworld
Oct 10, 2017, 8:55 PM
@ShyGuyXXL True that. lol
ShyGuyXXL
Oct 10, 2017, 5:59 PM
@Nitwitsworld I mean... the purpose of a shell IS protection so... I guess? ^^'
Nitwitsworld
Oct 10, 2017, 5:03 PM
@ShyGuyXXL I forgot that the older sprite did have the shell behind the head thing. lol
Do you think it's to protect their brains from damage like a hit on their back of the head?
ShyGuyXXL
Oct 9, 2017, 3:02 PM
I could be a jerk now and make a sprite like that, just to annoy you. xD
...but I'm too lazy. :P
Doc von Schmeltwick
Oct 9, 2017, 2:44 PM
Well as long as I don't have to see that weird go-behind-the-head shell, it's all good to me XD.
ShyGuyXXL
Oct 9, 2017, 12:48 PM
@Doc
Well, here's my version:
https://shyguyxxl.deviantart.com/art/Fat-Koopa-Re-Fatted-708881204
ShyGuyXXL
Oct 9, 2017, 8:58 AM
@Doc But this was 2003, not 1985. But who cares. To me they will always just be "those big, fat, doofy Koopas from Superstar Saga".
...who later got generified in the remake.
I'll make my own take on this character when I get the time.
Doc von Schmeltwick
Oct 9, 2017, 8:42 AM
Because everyone makes mistakes, and this company also called three separate enemies from the same game "King Bill" at one point. Still, they're licensed by Nintendo.
Also "Mushroom Person" actually was an early English name for Toads back when "Toad" only referred to the character.
ShyGuyXXL
Oct 9, 2017, 8:35 AM
@Doc Maybe it was a mistake. I'm just not convinced. I mean why would they just call it "Turtle" anyway? That's like calling a Toad "Mushroom Person". Or calling a Piranha Plant "Venus Flytrap". It just screams not canon.
Doc von Schmeltwick
Oct 9, 2017, 8:20 AM
@ShyGuyXXL But it's capitalized.....
ShyGuyXXL
Oct 9, 2017, 5:07 AM
@Doc According to Mario Wiki, the Prima Guide just says "A giant Turtle blocks the passage to a cave to the right of the watering hole."
That's a description, not a name.
That's like saying "Near Hoohoo Village there's a fan-powered piggy bank that spits out coins and mushrooms."
But that wouldn't mean the thing's canonical name is Piggy Bank. It's just a term that the writer came up with on the spot, to describe it.
So maybe the japanese guide is similar. Maybe it's just called Nokonoko since they didn't have a more specific name for it. Technically it is a Koopa (I just say Koopa without Troopa for simplicity sake) but that's like calling a Laser Snifit a Snifit, it's not incorrect, it's just oversimplified.
I can't read japanese so I wouldn't know the context.
BUT NONE OF THIS MATTERS!
Even if their names were Koopoopadoopas, that still doesn't change the fact that they look the way they look.
If they were supposed to look like normal big Koopas,
they would've made them look like normal big koopas. But they didn't.
You keep calling them ugly, but I don't get how that's a bad thing in the case of these fat Koopoopadoopas.
They're supposed to look this way. It's not like they look doofy because the artist was bad at their job or they made them doofy by accident. They were designed this way.
This even reflects in their dialog. They repeatedly go "durr" in their dialog, which is a stereotypical fat dumb person "sound". It's like when Marilyn of the Shadow Sirens goes "guh" all the time.
And even if they didn't make them look doofy in this remake and only made them fat, what would be so bad about that?
Doc von Schmeltwick
Oct 9, 2017, 4:32 AM
They DID have a canonical name. It was Turtle, according to Prima. And Japanese name means creator's intent. Besides, the original "Hammer Bros." looked like deranged Sledge Bros. The off-model designs of the original were ugly, and I'm glad they've been ridden of. Also it's Koopa TROOPA, not just "Koopa." There is no plain "Koopa." Except maybe Bowser's species. I'm really getting annoyed with people doing that. All Troopas are Koopas, but far from all Koopas are Troopas.
ShyGuyXXL
Oct 9, 2017, 4:19 AM
@Doc von Schmeltwick
If they were always intended to just be regular Troopas, then why did they make them look fat and doofy?
Maybe because they were meant to be fat and doofy?
The reason they have no special canonical name is because no one ever mentions them anywhere.
Fact is, they had a unique design in the original game which they should've kept. Even a generic Sledge Bro would've been more fitting than just a regular big Koopa.
Their fatness was important, because it meant they weren't easy to get out of the way. That made it feel less arbitrary that you couldn't just push them away or hammer them away.
Besides, it made them memorable.
Doc von Schmeltwick
Oct 8, 2017, 11:51 PM
@KaraszKun
Read my comment below. There never were any "Ankoopas."
KaraszKun
Oct 8, 2017, 10:57 PM
Replacing Ankoopa with a Big Koopa Troopa? Did they pick the one from Jungle of the Giants?
Doc von Schmeltwick
Oct 8, 2017, 9:37 PM
"AnKoopa" is an unofficial name. The official English name is "Turtle."
And the official Japanese name? Nokonoko. Meaning these were always intended to just be regular Troopas. Meaning they didn't make them boring, they made them less horrifically ugly.
Ton
Oct 8, 2017, 9:37 AM
Wow, they even made this guy boring.
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